When Will America Wake Up?
Posted on 26 October 2008 by admin
In order to win the presidency in America, candidates must stir up the religious fervor of the voters (gay marriage/civil union) and then vocally (and in some cases visually) wear your (new) Evangelical beliefs on your sleeve. It used to be candidate vs. candidate, then party vs. party, big business vs. the common (wo)man, platform vs. platform, then region vs. region, but now none of that matters as a new America has emerged, an America in which the majority with a religious manifest rules the minority with a secular agenda.
Throughout the centuries, most of the wars have been based on religion, something all people realize to be true. Iraq is divided into a power struggle of three religious factions; the same in the former Yugoslavia; the annihilation of the Jewish people in Germany; African genocide, and let’s not forget the last 800 years in England and Ireland, to name but a few. The same thing is beginning to happen in America. We are so split between our ideals and beliefs – and religion is winning! Separation of church and state is being debated more and more often. Soon, if you’re not like everyone else, religion’s minorities will be faced with fear and uncertainty as history has proved throughout time. Proselytization will become rampant, with people converting so as to be in the majority. Missionaries will be like door to door sales(wo)men spreading their word that they are the true defenders of ‘the American Way.’
The First Amendment of the Constitution is just words. However, the actions to support it without question are what make it alive with meaning. With the division we now have in America, will it still be supported? Or will it be changed little by little by a soon-to-be lopsided, right-wing Supreme Court. No one knows, but many are fearful of what may happen, especially after the last presidential election’s surprising, or not-so-surprising, main issue.
In the presidential election of 2004, 82% of the voters said that their main concern was moral (religious) beliefs. That was more than the economy, education, the environment, terrorism, energy, and the war in Iraq. It was the number one concern in America; the basis of most people’s decision on who gets their vote. Does that make any sense when our country is filled with so many more pressing ills right now? However, in reference to it, and give it its due process, one must ask: Whatever happened to ‘live and let live?’ Whatever happened to tolerance? Whatever happened to ‘love thy brother?’ What has happened to America, the land of the free to live our lives as free, consenting adults and pursue our forefathers’ foresighted decree of ‘separation of church and state?’
Ask yourself: Why do I have to swear on the Bible in court when the Ten Commandments cannot be displayed in a federal building? What will happen next? Only time, and the actions of our President, will tell.
When will white America wake up and realize, your ancestors caused todays blacks, and hispanic promblems?
Yes, in 2007 many blacks and hispanics have prospered in America, but the mentall, and physical abuse that minorities in this country went through from the late 1600's till the 1960's is still alive and has that effect today, it is time the govermant paid restitution not in checks for every black, but put billions of dollars into the communities, the schools, job creations, etc, just quit dishing out welfare and food stamps and placing them in concentration camps(Ghettos) Wake up white americans, your ancestors did something far woser then Hussein, Hitler, Stalin ever did
It is a bit more complex than that.
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Wow, that's harsh. And pretty small-minded. You can't blame problems of today on problems from the past. People need to stop making excuses and take care of themselves now.
And by the way…there's no such word as "worser"
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When will you use the spell check.
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Who cares……
Eventually people need to take responsibility for themselves and not blame others.
wwwaaaaaaaa
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thanks dude i forgot.
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slavery is over and has been over for a very long time. there is no longer as much of a difference between whites and blacks and its stupid to always be blaming the white people for what happened so long ago
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Wow, aren't you the "victim"
I'm half Mexican and find your comment to be insulting to my race. I demand that you retract your question and apologize to all minorities.
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Yes!!!
Bush has made jobs available for EVERYONE who wants to work.
Cool!!!!
I ESCAPED the Democrat Plantation, where blacks and poor whites, are kept down, poor, in their place, and voting Democrat, in hopes of a few crumbs being handed to us.
I ESCAPED. I wish everyone would Escape the Democrats.
BUT YOU HAVE TO WANT TO ESCAPE!!!
(thanks—Alpha Male. Great Answer.)
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I agree…… in begins with the children to assimilate them into productive people,,,,,,, i am uncertain if we should make them conform to white mans worldview, as that is the only way they will be embraced into it…..
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The welfare, food stamps, and various other social programs are way above a billion dollars in restitution.
By the way, why doesn't all the racism effect Asians the way it affects the "victims" you listed?
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Answer: Asians learn english, speak it, focus on education as a means to personal success and wealth.
I do not support this at all. First of all you are making a generalization that all current white Americans had ancestors here during those time periods. Secondly we give you tons of help, affirmative action ring a bell? Thirdly the 'white' ancestors were not worse than Hussein, Hitler, or Stalin. How do you think slave traders got slaves? From other blacks. Sorry but this is an absurd idea.
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AND ….. what should we do about it? Don't you think 162 years after the Civil War is long enough to continue this fight that no one I know started it????
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Thanks Chi Guy
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To be fair, rich blacks an latinos are actually worse than rich whites when it comes to discrimination. They are what we call "coconuts" but thats besides the point. Yes racism from the past has a complex part in the poverty of blacks and latinos, but that does not justify doing nothing to better yourself and just saying that racism was bad. We (blacks and latinos) have to put it in our minds to be better than the racists.
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To whoever said black people promote gangstas pimps and ho's: last I checked the CEO of MTV is white. And BET is also controlled by white people. Why do you think rap promotes this to blacks and latinos but not to whites?
actually they way I see it people that died 400 years ago didn't cause the problems of today, their actions may have set the stage but everyone is responsible for their own actions and blaming people who were dead before their grandparents were born is a cop out.
on a more personal note "woser" lol
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Get an education!
When will gang bangers get out of their gangs!
When will blacks stop calling each other nig****!
SPELL CHECK
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I'm not sure about the historical abuses relative to hispanics being on par with Hitler's treatment of the Jews (though there were certainly abuses), but yes, I'd have to say that white America's history with slavery was, in most respects, as bad or worse than anything that Hitler or Stalin ever did. For one thing, blacks were horribly abused in America for hundreds of years. …And the effects of that are still huge.
Edit: LOL! Well, it seemed to fit in perfectly with everything else we see at YA!
On the other hand, it did serve to bring the racists out of the woodwork, didn't it?
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When will the guilt ever end? Now I'm supposed to be made to pay for crimes done to blacks since the1600's? How about the Mongols being made to pay for their savagery back in the 1300's?
Besides which, since the 1960's we've actively been trying your solution, spending trillions on social aid. The bang for the buck has been pitiful.
Here's an idea? How about blacks stop blaming others, stop thinking of themselves as victims, stop encouraging broken homes and illegitimacy, and stop promoting the culture of gangstas, pimps and ho's?
The tools are already out there for blacks who want to make it. Study hard, get an education, work hard, keep the family together, and raise kids with proper values. By the way, this recipe works for all, not just blacks.
You can't give prosperity to people. They have to make it for themselves.
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Your spelling, grammar, and punctuation are as inaccurate as your "facts".
Slavery ended about 150 years ago. When will people take responsibility for their own lives? I don't blame people today for the abuse my great-grandfather suffered when he came from Italy.
STOP playing the race card. Stop taking drugs, creating children out of wedlock, murdering one another, and dropping out of school. These are PERSONAL CHOICES.
Get an education and a job. Then pursue the American dream. Nobody OWES you anything.
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I agree with Chi Guy *Shocker* this is just someone looking to start a new flame war.
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Wow, wow, wow…
I'm with you "Chi-Guy" but I just can't resist the 2 points… cheers
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Although I will admit to usually disagreeing with MOST of Chi Guys posts even I can say that he's right. A lot of the problems around here are caused by cowards hiding behind a alt.
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We are not our ancestors.
You are not yours.
And what about my black ancestors? My Native American ancestors? Most white people in America today are a mix of ethnicities… if you want to attack an ethnicity, it would be British. But doesn't that make you just as bad? Oh that's right… YOU'RE the victim. I'm sure your ancestors who actually did endure injustice would be ohh soo proud of a spoiled, whining little bi-tch like you.
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Get over it and get on with your life. Can't you stand up for yourself? None of my ancestors owned slaves, don't make me pay the taxes for your welfare.
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Geez…. Wake up… Realize… What on earth are you talking about?? If anyone should be reimbursed for abuse by our founding fathers, shouldn't the American Indian be the first in line and get the most. We didn't take them out of the country and enslave them. We took their country away and killed them.
Sure, there's plenty of non American Natives that should not be here… There's a good case why they are lucky, and a good case why they are not. but, based on your theory, I should get paid by the British because they abused my ancestors and took their land away in Northern Ireland.
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Um, really? You think slavery and segregation were actually worse than just killing everyone? I think your priorities are skewed.
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When will Marko P do us all a favor and take the gas pipe?
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Ok White America , so does that mean all of the white people would pay money. Secondly My ancestors where not even in this country at any of the time.
When people stop believing the false concept of race, we can get better. When the media stops sending the message that you can only be sucessfull if you play ball , or rap, it will get better.
When the black family returns, it will get better.
When poor white get help, it will get better.
When the Dems respect blacks, instead of thinking them as uncaple of being sucessfull it will get better.
When The media stops calling any black person that is sucessful without working in the entertainment indrusty with out being called a sell out. it will get better.
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Where does one get training to become a professional victim? Just asking, as it seems to pay well. Your question is based on racial hatred. Not facts.
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Broad accusations toward dead people.
The statute of limitations has obviously expired.
And many African tribal groups would sell each other to the Portuguese and other slaver Europeans, so let's blame some long dead
AFRICANS.
oh yeah, they're all dead too —
you just want someone to blame for general shortcomings. Stop selling crack, pimpin' hos, and/or crossing the border illegally, and perhaps the standards of living will increase.
Oh, BTW, learn english grammar and how to spell too. It might help in securing better jobs and is immeasurably helpful when seeking education which you obviously lack.
Flame on!
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What happened before I was born is not relevant to today. All Americans have the same opportunity. Many of them do not take initiative needed to make it. Just because you grow up in poverty does not mean they need to stay there.
The real problem blacks and hispanics have is they listen to people like yourself who want to blame others who are long dead for the problems of today.
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It sounds like the typical black or hispanic solution. Put more money into our communities.
If we did that today, most of it would disappear before it ever got to building schools, hospitals etc. It would be ripped off and put into more drug money and every other vice that is currently going on in the "ghetto".
The balck man will forever fall back on the mistakes of the past of the white man (slavery) instead of establishing community efforts within the back/hispanic communities and helping to solve their own problems. First have the community assume some responsiblity by getting rid of drugs. Second get fathers responsible for the children they bring into this world. Third establish businesses that can complete with the low cost manufacturers in China within the ghetto. Okay at first one might not get paid $20-$30 per hour but they would establish a middle class within those communities and begin the building of a sense of worth. It appears every program that has been tried within the "ghetto" has failed because the community leaders are like most folks with power, they think of their pockets first and by the time they have taken their percentage off the top there is very little left to do the work. Until you get leaders with integrity in those communities, who can be looked up to and who will galvanize the community to do the right thing and to work together to rise above the current norm, then you will always be ine the depths of dispare.
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The first 'illegal immigrants' arrived here in 1607, four hundred years ago. They came to this new land to escape religious persecution and tyrannical, oppressive governance.
Then they turned right around and did the same thing from which they were trying to escape! Did they bother to learn the native American Indians' language, or adopt the native American Indians' cultures? No.
Instead, they cheated the Indians out of land, assumed squatters' rights, and eventually event chased the Indians off the great plains. Did they respect the land as sacred and belonging to everyone? No. They just took it.
While the Indians regarded the millions of buffalo as a gift from nature to be used for shelter, food and clothing, the European "white people" slaughtered the buffalo for the sheer sport of it, leaving rotting carcasses to decay.
As our white ancestors stole more land from the Indians and eventually put them on 'reservations', they also imported black slaves to be bought, sold and traded as personal property.
In World War II, Americans actually had the audacity to put Japanese Americans in concentration camps!!!
America, the land that claims to welcome the poor, the sick, the downtrodden and the disadvantaged, has avoided caring for those who are underprivileged, elderly, lonely, hungry or homeless while driving around in gas-guzzling SUVs and Hummers, living in spacious homes, squandering natural resources just "we can", spoiling the Earth's environment and atmosphere, and ignoring the delicate ecological balance between all men, plants and animals on this planet, so necessary for our very survival.
But it's easy for us "white people" to say, "Hey, I'm not to blame for what my ancestors did! I wasn't there! It's not my fault!" And we go back to driving around in our gas-guzzling SUVs and Hummers, living in our spacious homes, and squandering all of America's resources just because "we can".
Prosperity in America comes at a price: a price that white Americans will pay once we are the minority. Be afraid…be very afraid. -RKO- 08/13/07
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For some reason the China Towns were burn too but now Chinese & Koreans run LA. While Blacks and Mexicans run the prisons
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WOW……do you have any diea what Hitler, Stalin, and Hussein did? They make slavery look like church. It's people like you who are causing blacks and hispanics problems because of your ignorance.
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I don't think that you will find too many ppl will say that slavery was terrible and wrong. It is wrong for one to posses another human being, but know this, it is still being done today, in the blacks native country of Africa. Had it not been for Tribes there hunting down the weaker tribes and taking them for slaves to their own kind. This is another fact that you need to know, It was not the Americans who went to Africa to hunt and gather the blacks from the jungles, it was the French who saw this and started slavery in their own country, then Frenchman said on lets take some to the Americas, and so the French man did. But it has now been over 30 years, and it is still being harped on, and White America is still being blamed because some blacks can't get ahead. Well in today's world, IT IS YOUR OWN CHOICE AS TO WHAT YOU ARE AND WANT TO BE….THERE ARE MANY GRANTS OUT THERE FOR ANY MINORTY TO ATTEND COLLEGE. IT IS YOUR CHOICE JUST LIKE IT IS MINE TO CREATE MY OWN FUTURE, MY OWN SUCCESS. STOP BLAMING EVERY ONE ELSE FOR YOUR OWN PERSONAL FAILURE. YOU WANT PPL TO RESPECT YOU? THEN STOP TAKING GOVERNMENTS HANDOUTS AND BECOME A PRODUCTIVE CITIZEN, SOME ONE YOUR CHILDREN AND THE CHILDREN OR YOU COMMUNITY CAN LOOK UP TO AND RESPECT FOR THE POSITIVE ACHIEVEMENTS.
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or you could get off your @$$, do something productive and stop complaining and using the race card as a crutch.
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So do my ancestors get restitution from the abuse they suffered coming from Ireland? Get over it and yourself, we are all responsible for our own actions. Some may have it tougher than others, but anyone can succeed if they work hard enough. Blaming others just makes you look like a loser and whiner.
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So, the Africans that sold their people to America, do they owe a check as well?
LOL.. If only it was that simple.
The only thing worse than someone crying "gimme gimme gimme" all the time (unless you're ABBA…LOL)…is someone crying "gimme gimme gimme" who can't even spell gimme!!!
Stop blaming others…take responsibility for your own actions (and spelling)… remove the incendiary racial invective…and work to gain a more complete and contextualized understanding of the history you're painting with a broad and bigoted brush… and I'm absolutely sure you'll feel much better.
As is… you're tragically under-informed and embarrassing yourself (and others who have similar but more informed position) w/ this rubbish!!
But thanks…I needed a good laugh!!
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You mean the Hispanics that wiped out the incredible Mayan and Incan civilizations? The Hispanics that enslaved the native people of Mexico and south America? Slaves that were still held in a form of bondage into the 20th century and are essentially 'untouchables' today? Those Hispanics? Poor babies.
Then there's the blacks. Have you noticed that Africa today is one of the most brutal and murderous places on the face of the Earth? A place where being hacked to death with a machete or an infant being raped by a guy with AIDS because of his voodoo beliefs is common? Do you think it was a paradise back in the 17th and 18th centuries? How do you think those slaves were 'rounded up'? One tribe would raid another and the few that weren't hacked to death were sold to the highest bidder. Then, of course, there are the African kings who, even late into the 19th century, used to impale political rivals by driving poles into their anus so that they died slowly as the pole worked it's way, through pressure, up into their body cavity? Punishment worthy of our most gruesome horror fiction was a reality in Africa. Sounds strange, but given that environment, even slavery in the U.S. sounds like a better alternative. Ask the most impoverished and self described 'oppressed' African American if they'd like to be returned to their homeland. I think the answer will say it all.
So stop your whining. The Hispanics and blacks are far from being the world's biggest 'victims'. Both cultures were and in some cases are the world's most murderously oppressive on the face of the Earth. So get the heck over it and your revisionist history.
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One of the most important ethos's of the US is that America has a "manifest destiny" ; a racist concept that is rooted in their bastardization of Christianity.
This garbage is profoundly ingrained in the American ethos and is why they can commit atrocity after atrocity after atrocity without blinking an eye and just move on.
Be it their contribution to the worst genocide in man's history (native peoples) to the enslavement ,torturing,raping,lynching etc of Blacks to the crimes against humanity in Vietnam and Iraq etc etc etc ,Americans will slaughter,kill,subjugate any and all in pursuit of their NATIONAL INTERESTS (READ PROFITS).
This is a very small list of these atrocities.
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/CIAtimeline.html
Many reject the comparison of Bush to the evils Hitler committed but for any human being to wage an ILLEGAL war of CHOICE based upon a filthy/despicable pack of lies (Exactly what Hiltler ) that has led to the slaughter of over 400,000 INNOCENT Iraqis.
Bush further lies to the Americans and tells them they are warring in Iraq to bring them democracy,freedom and liberty but these monumentally hypocritical and immoral CHRISTIAN AMERICANS believe this swill ,Bush is in Iraq for OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL and the US has been in the Middle East for over 100 years all for OIL OIL OIL OIL OIL .
The US has supported and continues to support a bunch of vile murderous right wing dictatorships in the region militarily,politically and economically and have NEVER given a crap about the people of the region (Except the Jews of course) let alone bringing them democracy and freedom.
Good luck but these monumentally hypocritical American Christians have long ago forgotten and/or completely bastardized Christ's teachings to satisfy their own greed/materialism and racism.
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I was born in 1989. I have nothing to do with the history of racism in this country. Why should I pay for something I didn't do? Why do I get punished?
Maybe because there's no one left to blame but yourself.
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As long as people continue to blame every other race but their own on their problems and continue to duck responsibility for their own actions they will continue to live in poverty. While there certainly were some issues in the past with so-called white America, it is also true that the White race has done more than any other group of people in history to right that wrong, as long as people use this crutch, these problems will perpetuate themselves. Fact, Black men are the leading cause of death amoung Black men in America. Fact, Hispanic Men are the leading cause of death of Hispanic men in America. Not the whites, greens, yellow or other color. Stop playing the blame game. there are more programs, money, education programs, social safety nets and dollars for minorities in the United States and Canada then the rest of the world combined. You are either living in the solution or living in the problem. Its time political correctness was trumped by truth and common sense. This is not to say there are not groups that are racist and criminals, they need to be reigned in for sure. But there has been more reverse discrimination then anything. If anything White people need to stand up and stop being the whipping boy for all the worlds ills. Quit playing the race card when its convenient people. There have been more incidents of non-white on white violence in the last 30 years then the other way around, yet, we are afraid to say anything, and afraid to say whats really going on. Enough….
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What is your question or is there one, sounds like babble.
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They ain't nobody that owes me anything fool! What planet you from?
You just talking all that trash cause yo butt is just plain lazy. Go to work fool and quit doing all that crying……. you embarrassing me.
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What a load of bullcrap.
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Hispanic
You silly boy, the only one doing anything to you in this country is the Zionists and the Nation of Islam. They have it better than the real white men (minority) of this country. If you are white and not in the Zionist movement for Israel control of this country you are blackballed…………..simple as that!
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http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Others-Doc-Jews/+Doc-Jews-911/IsraeliCrimes&AmericanTraitorsCaused911.html
First of all, my ancestors did nothing to the black or hispanics. I am Irish and my ancestors have been persecuted since the 11th century. Still persecuted going into the 21th century. When the Irsh came to America they were treated far worse. Look up "racism" The founder of the NAACP, DuBois, talks about how the Irsih were also slaves. A quote; "Six years earlier Oliver Cromwell and his 20,000 man army invaded Ireland. They killed the entire garrison of Drogheda and slaughtered all the townspeople. Afterwards, Cromwell said "I do not think thirty of the whole number escaped with their lives. Those that did are in safe custody for the Barbados." I am so sick of you people, Yes, "You people" crying about how you are so persecuted. Whats the matter are you too stupid to go out and get a job? We pour money into the hood to clean it up for "you people" and two years later in looks the same as it did before. Your all lazy, criminal minded, just look at the jails, You move into neighborhoods and destroy them. You bring trash, hoes, pimps, drugs. What do you want from the white man. The one that built this grreat country. The white man fought and died many times over for this country. He fought and died for your black ass to be free. Go to hell black man and hispanic man that cries for something he will not work for. Have a nice day.
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W.E.B. Du Bois founder of the NAACP
http://www.nde.state.ne.us/SS/irish/unit_2.html